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Permalink Reply by Kristin on May 18, 2008 at 8:54am

Try calculating the amount of NovoRapid that you need for the total carb amount and take 60% when you eat and 40% later (1.5-2 hours later). You should play with the ratios (75%/25%, etc) and the timing to find what is right for you. When I was on shots, I sometimes did three separate shots when eating pizza. It takes about 6 hours to digest for me. If I take it all at once, I usually go low before all the pizza has digested.

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Permalink Reply by Cathy on May 18, 2008 at 9:35am

The best way I deal with this is to cut pizza completely out of my diet . I no longer eat it . I no longer eat alot of things including any sugar and a whole list of alot of other things . I find rather than deal with the whole more insulin thing and the 3 am highs just omit that food from your diet .

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Permalink Reply by Kristin on May 18, 2008 at 9:59am

Sure, I don't recommend pizza everyday (for anyone, diabetic or not!), but we all have different approaches to our diabetes diet. Some people have managed very good control, while including pizza and pasta in their diet. Other people choose other roads, but I think that if you do choose to eat pizza and other hard to manage foods, it is good to experiment and get others' ideas about how to "minimize the damage" of pizza.

The first year after I was diagnosed, I ate nothing but healthy food. Broccoli was my idea of a snack. Eventually I drove myself crazy. I realize that other people could do fine and adjust to this diet. But it happens in our household (me and my husband) that I don't have time to cook dinner and we order a pizza. And I have now figured out how to bolus for this meal without hitting the "proverbial" ceiling. It's also nice not to feel like a sinner when I indulge in something that shouldn't be part of my everyday diet!

Hats off to those that keep a constant low carb diet! Someday I might... but for now, I'm learning how to control my blood sugars while eating carbs. So far so good... and I hope to get better!

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Permalink Reply by rainbowgoddess on May 18, 2008 at 12:49pm

I don't think I should deny myself something just because I have diabetes. If that were the case, I'd probably have given up and killed myself long ago. Either that, or I'd be "cheating" all the time, because like a lot of people, i have found that if I constantly deny myself things, I'm more likely to go overboard and binge on things that are unhealthy rather than have something in a small amount once in awhile. I'm on my 35th year of having diabetes, and I intend to still eat pizza once in awhile, and pasta, and potatoes, and white rice, and bread, and even cookies and cake and pie.

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Permalink Reply by saundra barragan on May 18, 2008 at 10:06pm

Hi Rainbowgoddess.
I don't blame you about the pizza cravings. Besides my being diabetic, my daughter is wheat and gluten intolerant. So we still have pizza every so often, but without the crust. I make a whole pizza of toppings and the sauce and we still get to have our pizza. I don't miss the crust anymore because I know she can't have it and my blood sugar doesn't go nuts with just the toppings which is my favorite part anyway. This is just our way around it. Whatever you decide for you is up to you.

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Permalink Reply by DiabeticizME on May 18, 2008 at 10:14pm

Pizza...yummy!!! I think I figured out the whole thing with it...either eat it in the afternoon for lunch and walk it off or adjust your insulin like Kristin said.

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Permalink Reply by craig620 on May 19, 2008 at 12:06am

As recently as a couple years ago I either didn't have a problem with pizza, or just didn't notice the delayed peak it produces. But those days are gone... Tried making tortilla pizza, but that wasn't so good. I have found that if I go thin/extra thin crust then it's okay. Even found a couple frozen brands marketed as thin/extra thin that work.

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Permalink Reply by Kristy on May 19, 2008 at 12:59am

I find if I go with thin crust it works well for me too.. I usually only eat cheese or veggie pizza also and find that it works much better. As for tortilla pizza, that works for me if I use the low carb brands. I have also found a flatbread that is slightly thicker and bigger than the tortillas with about 5-7 carbs per flatbread. These also come in flavors such as sundried tomato and garlic, and roasted garlic..makes great pizzas! Unfortunately I can't remember the brand. (I'll post the brand name when I find these again)

I have read that the pizza effect is caused by the high fat; the fat slows the conversion to glucose and therefore the insulin peaks before the glucose. I find that I have good results with "regular pizza" if I delay my injection (depending on my pre-meal BG) or split my dose.

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Permalink Reply by Katrina on May 19, 2008 at 8:51am

A recipe I have tried is this:

Spread a little olive oil on a small tortilla. You can spread a little cheese on it after that ( I don't always put cheese on it here, so I can save a few calories, but I'm talking a very very small amount, so not a big deal if you do.)

Then I put a few slices of turkey pepperoni on it, along with lots of veggies (red/green bell pepper slices, mushrooms, a few olives, etc...)

Sprinkle a little cheese on top. Throw it in the oven for about 8 minutes on 350.

It satisfies my pizza cravings and doesn't really shoot my blood sugars up - the tortillas is what you have to bolus for. The veggies and meat don't really count for much.

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Permalink Reply by Kristin on May 19, 2008 at 9:04am

I also make tortilla pizzas occasionally. If you use low-carb tortillas, then it can be a REALLY low carb meal. Recently I have not been able to find low carb tortillas in the grocery store. But i have ordered them online.

Low carb tortillas

Or

Low carb tortillas

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Permalink Reply by Kris on May 19, 2008 at 9:10am

Tortilla-based pizzas are amazing. Make a tortilla-based pizza, but with pesto instead of tomato sauce, some fresh mozzarella and slices of tomato. YUM.

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Permalink Reply by mary ann jacob on May 21, 2008 at 2:34pm

Hi rainbowgoddess; I have been type 1 for almost 31 years and I have found that pizza has a bad effect on my blood sugars no matter what so I only eat it once in awhile and take extra Humalog to cover it

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